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		<title>By: ali</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-4293</link>
		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 11:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who said that it dosnt hapen any where else?</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-4290</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meggy, Men are perfectly capable of modifying their behaviour i.e. not opening their mouths and making derogatory comments to paying customers in their cab. Do you really believe that if a woman behaves in a subservient way, men will never attack her?  Our is it fear, that underlines your words, that if you kid yourself that only so called foolish bad girls get attacked, and if you live by the misogynists rule book it won’t happened to you? I have genuine sympathy for the Egyptian ladies who are being deigned the basic right to go about their daily lives without being assaulted.
 Hopefully the Egyptian misogynists like the taxi driver mentioned will shoot themselves in the foot as female tourists and their families will avoid the area like the plague. I understand that tourism is a major export. Maybe that will force the Egyptian government to do something, while they seem to have little regard for their female citizens I bet they will care about the loss of hard cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meggy, Men are perfectly capable of modifying their behaviour i.e. not opening their mouths and making derogatory comments to paying customers in their cab. Do you really believe that if a woman behaves in a subservient way, men will never attack her?  Our is it fear, that underlines your words, that if you kid yourself that only so called foolish bad girls get attacked, and if you live by the misogynists rule book it won’t happened to you? I have genuine sympathy for the Egyptian ladies who are being deigned the basic right to go about their daily lives without being assaulted.<br />
 Hopefully the Egyptian misogynists like the taxi driver mentioned will shoot themselves in the foot as female tourists and their families will avoid the area like the plague. I understand that tourism is a major export. Maybe that will force the Egyptian government to do something, while they seem to have little regard for their female citizens I bet they will care about the loss of hard cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Meggy</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-4286</link>
		<dc:creator>Meggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 02:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sexual harassment is never right. But there are certain forms of harassment that are so simple to avoid that I am shocked when I read things like the poster above who said she has lived in Egypt 5 years yet she has taxi drivers asking her whether she still has sex with her husband. I am a woman, I never have taxi drivers ask me such questions. But then I tell them where I need to go and the only discussion I would have would be to clarify how to get there. No taxi drivers ever try to talk to me. If you don&#039;t want to have a conversation with a taxi driver, it&#039;s simple, you won&#039;t have one. If the conversation gets to the point of asking whether you still have sex with your husband, then frankly, you&#039;ve already said WAY TOO MUCH. Why does he even know you have a husband? Why did you discuss something personal like that with him? If someone asks you a question not related to getting to your destination, then don&#039;t open your mouth to respond. He will understand he crossed the line and it will end there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexual harassment is never right. But there are certain forms of harassment that are so simple to avoid that I am shocked when I read things like the poster above who said she has lived in Egypt 5 years yet she has taxi drivers asking her whether she still has sex with her husband. I am a woman, I never have taxi drivers ask me such questions. But then I tell them where I need to go and the only discussion I would have would be to clarify how to get there. No taxi drivers ever try to talk to me. If you don&#8217;t want to have a conversation with a taxi driver, it&#8217;s simple, you won&#8217;t have one. If the conversation gets to the point of asking whether you still have sex with your husband, then frankly, you&#8217;ve already said WAY TOO MUCH. Why does he even know you have a husband? Why did you discuss something personal like that with him? If someone asks you a question not related to getting to your destination, then don&#8217;t open your mouth to respond. He will understand he crossed the line and it will end there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalia</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-4285</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 09:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mona Ive copied some of the statistics you have written in your article for a design I&#039;m working on. Kindly email me so i can send you a copy of this design and i need help researching the egyptian constitutions as Article 268 of the Penal Code states that penalties range from one to seven years’ imprisonment on cases related to sexual harrassment bau i can&#039;t seem to find the exact article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mona Ive copied some of the statistics you have written in your article for a design I&#8217;m working on. Kindly email me so i can send you a copy of this design and i need help researching the egyptian constitutions as Article 268 of the Penal Code states that penalties range from one to seven years’ imprisonment on cases related to sexual harrassment bau i can&#8217;t seem to find the exact article</p>
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		<title>By: BlackinCairo</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-4265</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackinCairo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sexual harassment in Egypt is malicious and psychologically draining for women. It is not isolated incidents like a random guy jerking off in frontof you, it is a profound societal issue and a daily occurrence, even the police sexually harass women in the street! Downtown and Islamic Cairo are the worst areas. In both of these places bands of shiftless, unemployed and sexually repressed young Egyptian men take pleasure in causing each woman that walks by discomfort. It has little to do with what a women has on either, as people would like to lead you to believe. Women in full niqabs and burqas suffer through lewd and explicit comments from men here. I hope the Egyptian government cracks down and passes strict laws against harassment, Egyptian families raise their sons with a stronger sense of morals and respect for women, and more women begin speaking out against their abusers b/c I have already warned all my female friends against visiting Egypt.

PS- if there was ever a country where pepper spray and tazers should be legal and readily available, this is it
http://blackincairo.blogspot.com/2010/04/struggling-with-sexual-harassment-by.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexual harassment in Egypt is malicious and psychologically draining for women. It is not isolated incidents like a random guy jerking off in frontof you, it is a profound societal issue and a daily occurrence, even the police sexually harass women in the street! Downtown and Islamic Cairo are the worst areas. In both of these places bands of shiftless, unemployed and sexually repressed young Egyptian men take pleasure in causing each woman that walks by discomfort. It has little to do with what a women has on either, as people would like to lead you to believe. Women in full niqabs and burqas suffer through lewd and explicit comments from men here. I hope the Egyptian government cracks down and passes strict laws against harassment, Egyptian families raise their sons with a stronger sense of morals and respect for women, and more women begin speaking out against their abusers b/c I have already warned all my female friends against visiting Egypt.</p>
<p>PS- if there was ever a country where pepper spray and tazers should be legal and readily available, this is it<br />
<a href="http://blackincairo.blogspot.com/2010/04/struggling-with-sexual-harassment-by.html" rel="nofollow">http://blackincairo.blogspot.com/2010/04/struggling-with-sexual-harassment-by.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mohammad</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-3713</link>
		<dc:creator>mohammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it has EVERYTHING to do with how a women dresses.  Do you think what egyptian women are wearing today is called a &quot;hijab&quot;? HA!  Tight clothes with which the man already sees everything, so he goes for a grab!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it has EVERYTHING to do with how a women dresses.  Do you think what egyptian women are wearing today is called a &#8220;hijab&#8221;? HA!  Tight clothes with which the man already sees everything, so he goes for a grab!</p>
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		<title>By: Yasmin</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-3693</link>
		<dc:creator>Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry I notice I&#039;ve offed topic. But my sentiments still do rest on the topic on shaming women by men (especially Arab men) hence, the post. 

SOmetimes I wish I could talk like a white girl to a man who wants to judge me, &quot;Mind your own business!&quot; Oh but if I do that, I&#039;ll get spit at, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry I notice I&#8217;ve offed topic. But my sentiments still do rest on the topic on shaming women by men (especially Arab men) hence, the post. </p>
<p>SOmetimes I wish I could talk like a white girl to a man who wants to judge me, &#8220;Mind your own business!&#8221; Oh but if I do that, I&#8217;ll get spit at, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Yasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mona. I&#039;m  not Arab but my husband is Arab. I start to feel that muslim men especially Arabs, are &quot;concerned&quot; about hijab more than Allah do. Meaning, perhaps God wouldn&#039;t be angry or really mind if a woman chooses not to wear hijab after all, but men DO. 

I&#039;ve always thought as long as a woman wears something decent, then it&#039;s OK. Ok meaning, she shouldn&#039;t be criticised. Sometimes I feel I&#039;m wearing hijab just so that I will not be judged as an &quot;easy&quot; woman by men. That is, I wear it just so that I will not be labelled in a negative way. I hate it. Why can&#039;t Arab men just mind their own business??! 

I don&#039;t know but these days I start to really feel that Allah will not mind if I don&#039;t cover my hair. Or if I become a decent ad model (that is a taboo in Arab society too). The shame taboo thing is really starting to get on my nerves. Thing is, it&#039;s getting harder and harder these days to work a good job with a good paycheck when you cannot be free enough to wear what you want (and I don&#039;t mean bikini or mini skirt or see throughs or all that. Just something decent without having to cover the hair and exclude pants/jeans all the time). I mean seriously, why would an employer choose a woman who has so much fuss about covering her hair and not wearing pants (must try best to wear long skirts, which, by the way, are hard to find and expensive comparing to pants and jeans)and not wearing make up when he can get a woman who has no such fuss and appears friendly and approachable??

I start to feel that to be a really, really &quot;non-aib&quot; woman in the eyes of Arab men is only possible if your husband or family is super rich. Think Saudis. Their women have chauffers, maids and drivers. They don&#039;t have to work. So they can live like a perfect hijabi &quot;respectable&quot; woman. Because clearly, with all that help, even I wouldn&#039;t mind not only covering my hair but also my face and eyes and everything really! But fact is, outside Arabia (and Kuwait perhaps), most women just HAVE to be in public. They have to work because cost of living is expensive, and the salary is small. Depending on husband&#039;s income alone will not cut it. You&#039;ll end up trying to borrow from others. Or from the bank. Or some do things they shouldn&#039;t do (like cheating their business partners or stealing etc). Western convert muslim women will not understand this. They say you can make it if only your husband works. But I beg to differ. I&#039;m from asia. And from where I come from, we don&#039;t get free health subsidies, free education or such things as coupon systems. Everything is super expensive to locals because everything must be paid. There&#039;s no such thing as a welfare system here. One would have to borrow money just to buy grocery!

But how can we women work if just to BE in public is considered aib??? How can we women really work if talking to men is aib, being in company of men is aib? How can we avoid men when face it, the workforce is of course majored by men?? And worse, how can you efficiently compete when there is too much restrictions on you as compared to on men or on non-hijabi/non-restricted women whether muslimah or non muslim??

I really wish I have an answer to this. Can&#039;t take it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mona. I&#8217;m  not Arab but my husband is Arab. I start to feel that muslim men especially Arabs, are &#8220;concerned&#8221; about hijab more than Allah do. Meaning, perhaps God wouldn&#8217;t be angry or really mind if a woman chooses not to wear hijab after all, but men DO. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought as long as a woman wears something decent, then it&#8217;s OK. Ok meaning, she shouldn&#8217;t be criticised. Sometimes I feel I&#8217;m wearing hijab just so that I will not be judged as an &#8220;easy&#8221; woman by men. That is, I wear it just so that I will not be labelled in a negative way. I hate it. Why can&#8217;t Arab men just mind their own business??! </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know but these days I start to really feel that Allah will not mind if I don&#8217;t cover my hair. Or if I become a decent ad model (that is a taboo in Arab society too). The shame taboo thing is really starting to get on my nerves. Thing is, it&#8217;s getting harder and harder these days to work a good job with a good paycheck when you cannot be free enough to wear what you want (and I don&#8217;t mean bikini or mini skirt or see throughs or all that. Just something decent without having to cover the hair and exclude pants/jeans all the time). I mean seriously, why would an employer choose a woman who has so much fuss about covering her hair and not wearing pants (must try best to wear long skirts, which, by the way, are hard to find and expensive comparing to pants and jeans)and not wearing make up when he can get a woman who has no such fuss and appears friendly and approachable??</p>
<p>I start to feel that to be a really, really &#8220;non-aib&#8221; woman in the eyes of Arab men is only possible if your husband or family is super rich. Think Saudis. Their women have chauffers, maids and drivers. They don&#8217;t have to work. So they can live like a perfect hijabi &#8220;respectable&#8221; woman. Because clearly, with all that help, even I wouldn&#8217;t mind not only covering my hair but also my face and eyes and everything really! But fact is, outside Arabia (and Kuwait perhaps), most women just HAVE to be in public. They have to work because cost of living is expensive, and the salary is small. Depending on husband&#8217;s income alone will not cut it. You&#8217;ll end up trying to borrow from others. Or from the bank. Or some do things they shouldn&#8217;t do (like cheating their business partners or stealing etc). Western convert muslim women will not understand this. They say you can make it if only your husband works. But I beg to differ. I&#8217;m from asia. And from where I come from, we don&#8217;t get free health subsidies, free education or such things as coupon systems. Everything is super expensive to locals because everything must be paid. There&#8217;s no such thing as a welfare system here. One would have to borrow money just to buy grocery!</p>
<p>But how can we women work if just to BE in public is considered aib??? How can we women really work if talking to men is aib, being in company of men is aib? How can we avoid men when face it, the workforce is of course majored by men?? And worse, how can you efficiently compete when there is too much restrictions on you as compared to on men or on non-hijabi/non-restricted women whether muslimah or non muslim??</p>
<p>I really wish I have an answer to this. Can&#8217;t take it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpha</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-3052</link>
		<dc:creator>Alpha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that had happened to Mona Eltahawy is really shameful upon her countrymen but has it anything got to do with their religion or is it the level of humanity that they have fallen to?

I&#039;m sure you all will agree that it has nothing to do with religion since no religion teaches that (apart from a few ideologies who, as per their scriptures, treats women so).

And I am more astonished at the fact that the western world is silent about all that&#039;s happening to women in Egypt. Rather, Egypt has enjoys very good relation with them. Double Standards. Isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that had happened to Mona Eltahawy is really shameful upon her countrymen but has it anything got to do with their religion or is it the level of humanity that they have fallen to?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you all will agree that it has nothing to do with religion since no religion teaches that (apart from a few ideologies who, as per their scriptures, treats women so).</p>
<p>And I am more astonished at the fact that the western world is silent about all that&#8217;s happening to women in Egypt. Rather, Egypt has enjoys very good relation with them. Double Standards. Isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: henning</title>
		<link>http://www.monaeltahawy.com/blog/?p=63&#038;cpage=1#comment-2514</link>
		<dc:creator>henning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get an electric shocker!!!


Do you think it would make them go away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get an electric shocker!!!</p>
<p>Do you think it would make them go away?</p>
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